Reposted from The Fifth Column:
Larry Sinclair – Grifter or Profiteer? – Part I
I have logged hours of documentation on Sinclair. I have written several pieces exposing particular elements of Larry Sinclair’s constant deception. They will be referenced in this article according to the topic at hand.
I am not the only “expert” on Sinclair and his exploits. The Regulator has an entire blog based Sinclair’s exploits. In fact I will be referencing them a lot, as well as , Channeling Nemamiah, and The Mitch & Nan Show. There are other comprehensive sources that also have dedicated coverage of Larry Sinclair, exposing the man behind the proverbial “curtain”.
This “expose” will be in several parts. This is part 1.
Sinclair and his followers were livid that the Main Stream Media ignored his story. It was Sinclair’s promises of Main Stream Media attention, that prompted his supporters to give to him via his perpetual “Pay Pal” button which appeared on several blogs Sinclair had over the past two years.
Larry Sinclair is running for Congress in Florida’s 24th District. How did he get to this point? I will try to demonstrate the timeline of plans and schemes that have thus far culminated with Sinclair still seeking attention by announcing his plans to run for congress.
Larry Sinclair is also running from authorities in Colorado for an outstanding warrant issued years ago.
Additionally, Larry Sinclair claims he is a “freelance writer” (among other things) when inquiring about things that may be out of reach for the average person.
Here’s an example, he didn’t actually “claim” to be a freelance journalist when he called Barack Obama’s fatally ill grandmother, Madelyn Dunham in Hawaii, to ask her some questions about Barack. However, his tone and nuance was intended to give that impression when he spoke to the President’s sister that he was a “professional”, looking to interview a dying woman.. Listen.
Larry Sinclair prides himself with that call and still has it listed on his You Tube Page. This is only one small iota, (albeit in my mind a HUGE faux pas on Sinclair’s part), in which Sinclair makes an utter fool of himself.
Larry Sinclair posted a You Tube video telling viewers that he had a homosexual affair with Barack Obama back in 1999.
He quickly became an internet phenomena and curiosity. There were at least two factions, the believers and the non-believers who battled each other to this day as to whether Larry was being truthful or whether he lied.
One of the main “hooks” that kept Larry supporters on his side in those early days was his various “schemes” to make the Mainstream Media pay attention to him. This was also around the time that Barack Obama, Presidential candidate had started looking like a practical challenge for Hillary Clinton and John McCain. Sinclair’s supporters would do anything for Larry, just as long as the result was MSM attention.
At Larry’s peak of internet notoriety, he ultimately received well over tens of thousands of dollars from donations. It all began with an offer to Larry Sinclair, an offer he could not refuse and in fact, negotiated to make the pot sweeter for him and at the same time convincing the owner of a website that the owner would in fact be saving money in the long run.
The now defunct website called “Whitehouse.com” had offered Sinclair $100,000 to take a polygraph test if the results turned out to true. Sinclair was even promised $10,000 just for showing up. Sinclair took Whitehouse.com up on their offer but had a better idea. Sinclair wanted the $10,000 as promised, pass or fail. However, he also wanted to give $10,000 to charity…pass or fail. In the end, Sinclair negotiated a $30,000 “pass or fail” fee. Could he possibly had known that he was going to fail, and thus negotiated an additional $20,000 with no strings attached?
Here is a public document explaining Sinclair’s “logic”:
This blog provided the emails:
RE: Dear Murray
From: Lawrence Sinclair
Sent: Thu 2/21/08 9:29 AM
To: Dan Parisi (email@example.com)
Have Rob call me I have a different figure in mind and part of that figure I would want split into
two separate certified or cashiers checks payable to two charities. It will still be a lot less than
you will lose when I pass this test. Add 10K to what you suggests and have 5k each payable
to the following
1. Duluth Salvation Army Housing Loan Program
and 2. Girls and Boys Club of Duluth
Let me know what you think?
RE: Dear murray
From: Lawrence Sinclair
Sent: Thu 2/21/08 9:35 AM
To: Dan Parisi (firstname.lastname@example.org)
If you want to do this without doing the 100K yes, Because even the part coming to me is
going to pay my mothers back bills and medication so yes, if that is acceptable to you. You
still have all exclusive rights to video as you want, and I still agree that no other polygraphs
can be done for 4 weeks.
Subject: RE: Dear murray
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:42:04 -0500
If you want we can do this. We give you 20k either way instead of the way we have it and
maybe you give $2,000 or 10% to charity. If you do that way then you get rid of all these bribe
accusations. You will also look very good to the media and public as well. Thanks
(Emphasis are mine.)
So, there was Sinclair, re-negotiating the deal that Dan Parisi had originally set forth. Sinclair would claim on many occasions that he was not in “this” for the money, yet from the beginning, it HAS been all about money. Stay tuned…
Larry Sinclair – Grifter or Profiteer? – Part II
The “Whitehouse.com” sponsored polygraph test for Larry Sinclair was originally scheduled for Tuesday, February 26, 2008 in New York City.
That night, Sinclair went on his You Tube page to solicit money from his supporters so that he could stay in Los Angeles, where the polygraph actually took place four days earlier than announced by Parisi and Sinclair.
Sinclair’s You Tube Comments archived from: Channeling Nemamiah (pp45-50):
MysticNinjaJay: Are you actually asking Youtube posters for money?! That’s messed up man. LarrySinclair0926: Hey youngster, I am putting up double out of $20,000.00 to any supporter that wants this in the MSM now. Nothing personal, but you have a problem with that let me know and I will meet you tonight anywhere in california you ant nme to. I am fucking sick of of the shit you and others have sent my way and I am ready to fight you face to fucking face. If you do not have the balls, then be the bitch you are and get the fuck off my youtube page.
hndrxuntilidie: What?? i’m giving up!!! you’re a certified mad man, for real. You’re asking strangers on youtube for” money”? Larry, please go see a phsyciatrist–you need some help.LarrySinclair0926: I am mad as hell, I am sick of you little fucking internet warriors that talk shit and I am telling each and everyone of you warriors stand up to me face to face toe to toe and get beat down like the little gutless bitches you are. You have a problem with that the FUCK YOU PUNKS.
hndrxuntilidie: Larry!!..it sounds like your becoming real angry and agitated!! please go to the hospital and et the help that you desperately need. Only a mad man get angry over other peoples hard earned cash.LarrySinclair0926: You go to the fucking hospital you fucking gutless bitch. I am angry because you gutlutless punks talk all this shit and don’t have the balls to say who you are or where you are. Fuck you, you have a problem with me I am at XXX Wilshire Blvd Rm XXX, Los Angels, CA. 213-XXX-0000 Until you have the balls and guts to say this shit to my face go fuck your mama punk ass bitch.
Many of Sinclair’s supporters and detractors tried to tell Sinclair that polygraph tests were not reliable and were not allowed as evidence in court. At the time of the following exchanges, Sinclair had revealed that the polygraph test had already been administered:
Antipolygraph: Unfortunately, polygraph results can neither confirm or disconfirm Larry Sinclair’s allegations against Barack Obama, as explained in our (AntiPolygraph’s) latest video posting.
LarrySinclair0926: fuck you too!!!!!
MysticNinjaJay: THE VIDEO AND INFO EXPOSE H. FEARS AND CANNOT REFUTE….For the Truth about Polygraphs search Youtube for the vid: “Michael Shermer Tests the Polygraph”. Also go to the Wikipedia article on Polygraph and read the segment titled “Reliability”.
LarrySinclair0926: Youngster, do not make me take you down over this BS. Wait til you see my polygraph video and try to refute it. You will be embarrassed to silence.
ExposeHypocrites: MYSTIC JUMPS SHIP ON POLYGRAPH…He throws one anti-polygraph “expert” out there, and then when I show a video of that “expert” getting slammed by Bruce Burgess, now he throws up some other ham & egger. It’s over Mystic. It’s time to find a new hero. THE SUNSHINE CLUB (EST. 2/2008)
LarrySinclair0926: EH the second expert reviewing mine is Gordon (something) in Salt Lake City that is the foremost expert on the attempted use of counter measures. My examiner stated to me yesterday I would be happy to know there are not signs of attempts to use counter measures in my polygraph.
Antipolygraph: Would that be Gordon H. Barland, perchance?
FlashGordon: These dopes are claiming that with the proper EXPERT training you can beat a POLYGRAPH. Do you think Larry would even know how to train to beat a POLYGRAPH.
LarrySinclair0926: Let me tell you something, I have never stated this, but you idiots refer to me as some moroon, I have a aster and a lwa degree. I simply cannot take the bar because of my stupid past in my 20’s. You people do not want to go up against m on education because most of you will lose badly.
MysticNinjaJay: No Gordon, if you payed any attention to the antipolygraph videos you would know that the counter measures are rather elementary. You do not need expert training only basic understanding to tell lies undetected. Worse yet innocent people can FAIL the polygraph as many things can trigger the devices such as nervousness, anger or excitement. And compulsive liars who believe their lies can lie undetected as well. Polygraphs are a pseudoscience.
MysticNinjaJay: There is no way to scientifically analyze the mental processes controlling decisions to lie. Maybe one day they will invent a machine that reads minds and acts as a REAL lie detector but science isn’t there yet. If you watch the video I linked to a body language expert had more luck detecting lies than the polygraph with all its fancy equipment. Magicians train to read body language. I saw Criss Angel read Oprah to guess a number between 1 and 100. It’s not magic it’s psychology.
LarrySinclair0962: again I tell you to wait til you see the video from my polygraph. What makes you an expert? You cannot even do so calledpsych evaluations correctly. Trust me, I have beat down experts with far more education and training than you.
MysticNinjaJay: There was another hint in the MSM about Sinclair’s story. On Larry King Live they were discussing the NY times story on McCain. Larry King asked the guest if he thought that the critics would be just as hard on a claim made against Barack Obama. The guest replied that there HAVE been claims made against Obama and were met with equal scorn by the MSM. If Larry passes I think the story will break ASAP. If he fails he’s done. Should he pass there will be a media circus over polygraph reliability.
LarrySinclair0926: I have given yo nothing but respect. I have told people to do the same and I have even told my own mother to back off of you. If you insist and continuing with your crap, I cannot and will not defend you. I am not telling you you have to believe me, but your BS can and has been refuted by professionals for years now but you fail to include that in your posts.
ExposeHypocrites: ANTIPOLYGRAPH…You got owned by Bruce Burgess. You lost all credibility in that video in my view.
LarrySinclair0962: Oh Contrair. While they may not be admissable in criminal court procedings, they are in civil litgation and they are widely used and respected in the elimination of suspects. Get your facts correct before you attempt to take a position with me.
LarrySinclair0926: fuck you, I am not going to continue to let you bitches tear me down without a fight. you have a problem with that get the fuck off my youtube page.
The point here is that Sinclair later claimed that the polygraph test was a fraud and that the Obama camp as well as Dan Parisi schemed to make it look like he failed the test. Yet, as seen from the exchanges above AFTER the tests were administered, Sinclair seemed to have no problem with polygraph tests.
One last thought, in my earlier segment I showed the Sinclair/Parisi email exchange where Sinclair presented to Parisi, an plan to change the amount of money he would recieve from Parisi . Sinclair also mentioned that a portion of those proceeds would go to help his mother with medical issues and bills. Yet, as clearly stated above, Sinclair was willing to negotiate with his supporters:
I am putting up double out of $20,000.00 to any supporter that wants this in the MSM now.
That would have been unfortunate for his mother if someone actually did back up the entire $20,000:
No I am asking my supporters to elp me stay here and get this in the MSM and I am willing to double their investment into this story up to $20,000.00.
Sinclair had also sent Dan Parisi an email about the same time he had the above exchanges with his supporters and detractors. Essentially, Sinclair was making a deal with Parisi to send him $2500.00 immediately:
Sat 2/23/08 4:47 AM
Dan Parisi (email@example.com)
I am prepared to give you the chance to save $2500 by you providing me with $2500 cash and re-writing the $20,000.00 check for $15,000.00 check and I return to you the $20,000.00 check so that I can remain here un til monday morning and I pay the cost from saturday thru Monday myself to get this out in the MSM.
I will need you to respond by 1:00 PM today. That is a savings to you of an additional $2500.00 dollars. Please contact me by calling the room at x 207 or pounding on the room door.
Larry Sinclair – Grifter or Profiteer? – Part III
Dr. Barland’s report on the polygraph test - 1st series:
“I scored the printout of the first series of charts (regarding oral sex)…there were strong and consistent reactions to the relevant questions. I scored the chart as Deception Indicated.” Polygraph report
One last word about the polygraph saga with Larry Sinclair and Dan Parisi. In public email exchanges, Dan Parisi had threatened to stop payment on the $20,000.00 check that Sinclair was to receive. Parisi felt that Sinclair’s had reneged on his promise to release the limo driver information (the sole “witness” to Sinclair’s story.) The relevant emails can be viewed here. (Pages 42-44.)
The polygraph results had devastated Sinclair’s supporters. He lost at least 60% of them after the results of the tests were announced. The internet was filled with stories about Sinclair failing the test. Both conservative and progressive blogs as well as online news reports announced the results and gave their opinions on what was really happening with the Sinclair saga.
The Limo Driver
Sinclair and his supporters knew that having a corroborating witness would add weight and credibility that even the mainstream media couldn’t ignore. However, producing the limo driver would turn out to be an impossible challenge for Sinclair.
If the limo driver came forth,wrote most of his supporters, then people would believe Larry’s story. For Sinclair, keeping the “limo driver meme” alive was guaranteed to keep those donations coming into to the Sinclair coffers.
Sinclair was persistent about keeping his story alive. One has to wonder, what went through his mind when he suddenly lost more than half of his support after the polygraph results? Sinclair needed a new “hook” to bring his supporters back in. Something sensational and believable. Something that could present “evidence” and melodrama all at once. Something that even the Globe Magazine would write about . That “something” turned out to be what I call:
The Introduction of the Donald Young Invective
Although Sinclair tried to keep his supporters (and entice new ones) with stories about Dan Parisi and David Axelrod scheming to derail him by “fixing” the polygraph results due to a $750,000 bribe Axelrod gave Parisi. There was also a law suit initiated against three bloggers who Sinclair claimed defamed his character. Sinclair had to get an attorney to represent him in that blogger case as well as re-opening a complaint he filed against the Democratic National Committee, David Axelrod and Barack Obama claiming slander.
However, all of those things did not keep Larry Sinclair’s supporters focused enough. They wanted something to “bring Obama to his knees” before the end of the primary season. They wanted red meat! At the time, Sinclair seemed their only hope.
On February 17, 2008, an interview on The Cao Show, a right-wing internet radio show changed the failing dynamics for Sinclair. The following exchange occurred:
Larry: ‘Someone even posted on, they’ve even posted something on the web to where it comes, if you Google my name, stating hey, you know Sinclair is going to be found murdered and then they’re going to try to blame that on Obama too’
Cao comments on murder not being a stretch of the imagination because there is the story of the murdered gay choice director at Obama’s church.
Most Sinclair observers believe that was the first time Sinclair had even heard of a gay man from Obama’s church being murdered. This interview occurred about a week or so before the polygraph and the results. In the interim, Sinclair never mentioned the Donald Young/Barack Obama connection.
Then on March 10, 2008, in an interview on The Jeff Rense Program, another internet radio program aimed at conspiracy theories, Sinclair had this to say:
The second thing I need to discuss right now is probably is going to come as a bombshell to you as well. I have received numerous requests over the last few days asking me to respond to allegations going around the internet and some of the blog sites about a rumor that Paul Young – and for those who do not know who Paul Young is – this is the choir director connected to Senator Obama’s church who was found murdered in his home last December. I have refused to comment either way as to whether or not myself and Mr Young had any contact. I had waited for tonight to let you know on your program that there is truth to those allegations but that I cannot get specific on them. I just needed to clear it up because I am just getting bombarded with emails, you know, individuals asking well is it true, what did you say? Mr Young and I did communicate prior to his death and I felt that since you were the first person that actually exposed the story it was only right that I formally comment on those allegations here on the Jeff Rense show…I did not meet with Mr Young face to face at any time.’‘I just need to clarify something…I think I referred to Mr Young as Paul just now and I am sitting here on my laptop talking to you looking at an email from a Paul Day who has been harassing me and the gentleman’s name was Donald Young.’
‘It’s my understanding that he was (gay).’
[JR: When did you first hear about his (Young’s) murder?] Actually, I really didn’t and that’s the funny thing. I had not really paid that much attention to it.
LS: I had become more aware of Donald’s passing and the circumstances surrounding it after I had posted my YouTube video and I had gotten an email from one of the YouTube users asking me if I had heard about this and when I started looking into it I thought ‘oh my god’, that’s probably why if you notice that I posted on my blog recently asking other people to comment and let me know if I should consider this a threat.
That was the introduction of the Donald Young meme created by Larry Sinclair. Channeling Nemamiah has shot holes through that entire interview here and here. A reasonable person can easily come to the conclusion that something is amiss here.
Needless to say, Sinclair’s daily comments from supporters went from an average of eight comments a day to comments in the hundreds. The Donald Young story was the boost Sinclair needed to continue feeding his coffers.
NOTE: It appears that Jeff Rense has made his archives available ONLY through subscription. Channeling Nemamiah has a transcript of that particular show as it relates to Sinclair. It starts at the bottom of page 68 and ends in the middle of page 70.
Next…Sinclair gets help milking the Donald Young invective.
Larry Sinclair – Grifter or Profiteer? Final Installment
If one were to google “Larry Sinclair, Donald Young” the long list of links implicating Barack Obama in Donald Young’s murder is astounding. Sinclair had an army of supporters flooding the internet with the Donald Young story as told by Larry Sinclair.
Finally, Sinclair’s proponents got the “smoking gun” they were looking for to bring Obama down! Or so they thought. His supporters sent him money to go around the country tours, informing people about “the real Barack Obama and the Donald Young connection”.
Sinclair allies also paid for trips to Washington, DC. First, to the Democratic National Committee Rules/Bylaws Committee Meeting in DC in May 2008. Then for Sinclair’s National Press Conference in June 2008. Both trips were meant to shine a spotlight on Sinclair’s allegations and finally make the mainstream media take notice.
Unfortunately, Sinclair decided to send “anonymous” threats to some of his detractors the day of his arrival in DC (May 28, 2008). The threats were traced to the hotel in which Sinclair was staying. The irony is that his actions that night were added to the court records in the blogger case and may have had some impact in the ultimate outcome.
It should be noted that from the time Sinclair announced the “Donald Young connection to Barack Obama” until his News Conference, Sinclair’s supporters numbered at least 500 and maybe more. This was Sinclair’s peak in terms of collecting money for his different tours and visits to DC.
The Mitch & Nan Show: Where is LaRye’s Proof? July 8, 2008
Larry insist this is not about the money. Though he has recently abandoned all attempts to “get his story out and further his cause”, fundraising is now and has always been in full swing.
And first and foremost, Larry’s entire “LAWSUIT” which to date has been a MISERABLE failure, is an attempt to sue three bloggers for “slander”.
It seems evident that as Larry hangs on to the vestige of support he has remaining, he is intent that these gullible, feeble-minded, bigots (and Hillary Clinton hang ons) be milked to help pay off his criminal debts and keep him from jail.
He did this with a Florida warrant and continues to do it today. For a complete list of Larry’s illegal collections, raffles and the fleecing of the feebs, please visit here:
So why is it SO clear to us and others that while Larry claims “its not about money” it is ALL ABOUT MONEY?
“All about the money…”, indeed.
When all the “projects” listed above failed, and Sinclair supporters were out of tens of thousands of dollars, with nothing to show for it, Larry Sinclair came up with another idea. He decided to write a book. He asked his supporters to buy advance copies of the book (to fund the self publishing venture), and that the book would be delivered in early January 2009. The book was eventually self published and ready for distribution in August 2009. Many of the supporters hung on to their last hope that Sinclair will eventually get mainstream media notice. They felt the book, entitled Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair: Cocaine, Sex and Murder? would contribute to President Barack Obama’s downfall. To date, the book has not fared very well. Although Sinclair sent a free copy to many news commentators and news outlets, the book has never been mentioned on network or cable news programs…not even once.
Having endured yet another fail with his book, Sinclair did not want to give up his internet “cash cow”. So in late November 2009, Sinclair announced that he would run for Congress in his district (FL-24). He has asked for donations toward his ‘campaign’. Sinclair had a counter on his congressional page showing the donations, but recently took it down. Perhaps it was because of the current IRS issues he’s having. Perhaps thats why he took down his “PayPal” button as well.
Tying up loose ends:
Larry Sinclair lost the lawsuit against the bloggers.
Larry Sinclair’s attorney, Montgomery Sibley was suspended from practicing law in DC and FL.
Larry Sinclair was arrested after his press conference at the NPC.
Larry Sinclair’s supporters have for the most part, moved on to attach themselves and their support to the “birther queen” , Orly Taitz.
So the final question is: Larry Sinclair, grifter or profiteer?
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn defines “grifter”:
grifter – swindler: a person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiteering_(business) defines “profiteer”:
Profiteering is a pejorative term for the act of making a profit by methods considered unethical
Either way, Sinclair has found a niche on the internet that is his very own “cash cow”. It appears that as one scheme after the other fails, Mr. Sinclair will come up with a new one and most assuredly, the few die-hard supporters he has left, will be right there to give him what he wants.
Postscript: Larry Sinclair and The Money
LARRY AND HIS MONEY
Money, Larry, Moma and Tabitha Sinclair Grasmick
In his blog and in several radios interviews, Larry claims he is NOT in this exercise for the money. However, Nut Bread, Donations, Pay Pal, Raffles, etc. show up continuously on his blog. Larry himself, Moma and BevAnn seem to be the most “effective” fund-raisers and to date, there has been no real accounting of what Larry has done with the money he has received.
Here is what we KNOW Larry has received to this point:
$20,000 from WhiteHouse.COM for failed polygraph test
$500 from “The Globe” for photograph
$8,000 (Minimum) for his 1st trip to Washington D.C. (likely more)
$11,000 (minimum) for his 2nd trip to Washington D.C., his arrest and stay in Delaware
$10,400 for Press Conference
$10,000 (Minimum) for his “criminal defense” fund
Undisclosed Amount for paid trip to Los Angeles for failed polygraph
$925 Payment to Florida Court
Total received (only which can be verified) is in excess of $60,000.
Confirmation of these receipts are on his own blog:
WhiteHouse.COM- Posted by Larry Sinclair on Saturday, March 22, 2008 “The WhiteHouse.com, Inc. check did clear the bank”
- Globe payment confirmed on his blog and in recent radio interview.
- First DC Trip: http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/the-fight-goes-on/
- 2nd Trip to DC- Based on answers to interview questions
- Press Conference- Based on answer to question at Press Conference
- Defense Fund- $5,000 from one individual; $5,000 in donations. Documented in Larry’s own website.
- Florida Payment-
- There has been NO accounting or audit of the money Larry Sinclair has received.
Periodically, there are glimpses to what he “claims” and other times there are “slip-ups” he rushes to cover.
For example, Larry claims he gave the $20,000 from WhiteHouse.Com to his mother.
“The WhiteHouse.com, Inc. check did clear the bank and my mothers back past due bills have in fact now been paid as was the stated purpose of those funds.”
Given Mrs. Sinclair is currently in bankruptcy, an amount of money of this size is required to be reported to the Bankruptcy Court and distributed accordingly. We will follow up with this court tomorrow to assure this has been done.
Larry has NEVER addressed or been pressed about a disbursement of “donated” money to Tabitha Sinclair Grasmick.
He made a disbursement to Tabitha Sinclair for $150. She appears to be a 25-year-old female who claims to live in New Orleans Louisiana.
This assessment was made over 18 months ago. Of course there have been more fundraisers to publish his book. Although Sinclair grossed thousands for “advanced sales” of his book (which was not even written at the time) he then decided to form a corporation and sell stock in the corporation in order to get the money needed to uh… ”publish the book”. One need only connect the dots to see that Sinclair had a real problem with “money management”. It’s no wonder the IRS is hot on his trail as we speak.
Another good UPDATED analysis into Sinclair’s ability to raise money can be located here.